Transclusion

5 02 2008

Ted Nelson gave a talk at school today. It reminded me of two things:

  1. The Matrix (lots of prisons and systems to control us and adapting to the machines’ way of life…)
  2. The God Delusion *(a densely-packed refutation of something that you’ve suspected was fundamentally flawed all along)

Prof. Nelson handed out some copies of ZigZag and Xanadu and demoed XanaduSpace. Having heard about it for ages and seeing demonstrations in other videos scattered across the web, it was great to see it right there. I think a combination of seeing it materialise despite the rather long-lived smear campaign against it (it was like a Googlebomb of “Xanadu” for “vaporware”, but in print) and hearing Prof. Nelson talk about the concrete concepts behind it (C++, OpenGl and Python backend, next platform will be iPhone, Flash version soon) really solidified the concept in my mind. I think I’m ready to believe that with fine-tuning, the computer world can be turned on its head (in a good way).

The basic premise of the talk was that technology was really just “packaging and conventions” and that we had learned to use kludgy solutions rather than good solutions being engineered (this was blamed on techies). Nelson believes that the web’s infrastructure (one-way links, unsourced quotations etc.) is severely lacking, and that 1984, when Xerox PARC gave us the desktop metaphor, was when “it all went wrong”.

Another thing that struck me was the sense of activity and understanding. Age 70, having been ridiculously ahead of the curve for so long but never really achieving the maximal recognition he deserves, Nelson continues to pursue his original projects with zeal and an apparently very perceptive mind. Listening to his anecdotes and analogies reminded me strongly of interviews with Richard Feynman.

The subject of Lain remained fairly suppressed, although people now frequently tell me how often I mention it even when I don’t (…).

Of course, the best thing about Xanadu would be sourced or transcluded quotations - as people may know, I have a thing about blockquotes [1, 2]. With Xanadu I will finally get my wish! FINALLY! OH YEAH!!

On a rather insane note, I think I read somewhere (probably New Scientist or Wired but I really can’t remember - I should really find the source and, y’know, transclude it) that the Google generation is actually very bad at processing and finding information in most scenarios because of their (no, not me - it’s them!) ridiculously short attention spans and inattention to detail.

I think this is the other extreme that I’ve been waiting for; people generally have this rather idealised view of internet-savvy folks being greatly intelligent data processing machines, churning through some huge number of articles on RSS feeds, tagging hundreds of links every week etc. while the minority believe that people are now just dumb keyword filters. I think both of these views are inaccurate. Yes, there’s a danger that people may deactivate their higher thought and just sift through pages of Google results but intelligent reading and data processing is not dead.

When I did our first Module 1 past paper last week (unashamed boast: 95%), I applied the rules that I generally apply to webpages (not consciously, mind you. I had to really think hard about what I do) :

  1. Keyword search - what is the general feel of this page? Large text? What does it say?
  2. Specific subheadings? (Mark allocation?)
  3. Start forming fuzzy answers
  4. “Oh, crap! That doesn’t make sense… wait - let me read this in detail.”
  5. “Oh. Oh. Right, wait.”
  6. Answer questions on this page.

Repeat for every page.

Then finally, check every page in detail.

It’s kind of like modular programming or drawing something starting with a basic sketch and refining it (but not both at once. I should have said “xor” instead of “or”). You can either choose random bits and focus down on them or get a general outline and keep refreshing your knowledge with slightly higher information resolution. Eventually the answer crystallises in your mind, like an infinite function tending to root 2 or a sign becoming readable as your camera desperately focuses and refocuses.

Yeah. It’s all good, basically. It’s crazy about Taniyama, isn’t it? Man.

Mr Smith covered the talk in a slightly less haphazard way…

Pax

* Mr Smith has told me that there are in fact better alternatives.


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7 responses to “Transclusion”

5 02 2008
William (19:32:28) :

Just have to do the whole Christian thing :-S. Richard Dawkins is a very clever person who has kind of missed the point of Christianity. Christianity is based on faith and therefore is impossible to “prove”. In “The God Delusion” a lot of the point made are rather one-side and the book certainly doesn’t provide the whole picture. I would recommend reading more around the subject before making solid decisions. A book called “The Dawkins Delusion?” comes to mind but I have no idea if its any good. Anyway I probably shouldn’t get into the whole discussion in a comment thread but you know where to find me.

5 02 2008
Farhan Mannan (19:36:24) :

Fair enough. You are a very clever person who has kind of missed the point of my post :-D HA HA HA HA HA

5 02 2008
Elliot Spragg (22:42:39) :

Taniyama is pretty great. Yes Will, we know where to kill find you. Because we are friendly and tolerant people. Not at all terrible, terrible people.

5 02 2008
Preoccupations (23:58:29) :

Ted Nelson @ St Paul’s II…

The Bush years have not been kind to those Americans living abroad and dependent on the dollar exchange rate. Out of necessity, then, Ted and Marlene, who first came to St Paul’s in July 2007 (see here), are soon to…

6 02 2008
William (08:27:52) :

I know that it wasn’t the point of your post (an excellent post if I might say so myself). But I still felt I had to make the point.

6 02 2008
Farhan Mannan (08:57:04) :

Will - fair enough. lol compliment wtf

7 02 2008
adam2z (01:13:28) :

@william

right. why should a book designed to criticize religion have to give a counter argument to every point it makes?

the dawkins delusion is supposedly a book full of personal attacks and little content (comment via storrs kegel) but i must read it (i.e. steal it from storrs kegel).

of course it is impossible to prove christians wrong. however it is easy to show someone who has no preconceptions why it is silly to go down a road of christian belief. (and perhaps even show some christians that that have made a silly journey - but thats a lot of life’s belief to turn ones back on).

- consider this comment to yours as yours was to farhan’s post. and as you said ‘you know where to find me’